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AGORAfilia and agoraphobia (10): Jesus was a feminist

The truth is that, having said earlier that Hypatia was the victim, among other things, a male bigotry, anyone who has seen the film Amenábar or have researched a little about the character and his times easily reach the conclusion that the male bigotry is none other than that of a Judeo-Christianity triumphant, strongly patriarchal sign that God is Father as parents are saints-and single-male lead and have led to herds in the Church.
As if that was not clear that this faction of Christianity triumphant is men-as decía un viejo anuncio del brandy Soberano -, en la película se cita, como detonante de la muerte de Hipatia, una de las epístolas misóginas atribuidas a San Pablo: I Timoteo 2, 11-15:

Mulier in silentio discat cum omne subiectione. Docere autem mulierem non permitto, neque dominari in virum, sed esse in silentio. Adam enim primus formatus est, deinde Eva. Et Adam non est seductus, mulier autem seducta in praevaricatione fuit. Salvabitur autem per filiorum generationem, si permanserit in fide et dilectione et sanctificatione cum sobrietate.

"La mujer, en silencio, aprenda con toda sumisión. No permito que la mujer enseñe ni que domine al hombre, but keep silent. For Adam was formed first and Eve second. And Adam was not deceived but the woman who seduced, was in the transgression. However, be saved by childbearing, while modestly persevere in faith, in charity and holiness. "

Take that! After read such a text, I feel like photocopying the bar cronies the corner, still unaware of the e-mail and forwarding garbage, "and toast with a San Pablo Farias and a glass of Sovereign , as God intended ...

Joking aside, and despite that, Unfortunately, this has been the triumphant faction Christianity, in large part responsible for the macho stereotype to this day, just enough, stop and consider the following:

1 º. This show of machismo in any way be attributed to Jesus, if we look at the evidence-both canonical and apocryphal, that we have reached on his life and works

2 º. Is attributed to Paul, who, albeit the most influential writers in Christianity, we should remember that Jesus did not know .

3 ° But it does not even seem to be words of Paul, because experts say the letters I and II Timothy (as well as Colossians Ephesians and ) are "deuteropaulinas" that is, after Paul and written by authors long after (perhaps an ancestor of Rouco Varela?) Interested in countering the prestige enjoyed by women in some circles and in some apocryphal writings of the Gnostics called, as, indeed, in several passages of the canonical Gospels that immediately comment. Authors as little suspected of heterodoxy and Jose Maria Bover and Joseph O'Callaghan, responsible for the critical edition of the New Testament TRILINGUAL [Greek, Latin, Castilian] in the Library of Christian Authors (1977), in line with the passage of Timothy suggest in a note following (I can not resist quoting-to underline and bold - even at the risk of moving from my usual speech-brick written directly to concrete):

"This passage is a remarkable coincidence, the theme, not orientation, something that San Epifanio said of the sect of the Priscillianists or Quintilian (something like the far left movement mountaineer): "They attribute the founding of their sect Quintiles and Priscilla ... Resort to various authorities very frivolous. Claim that the fact of having been the first to eat the fruit of science has been a great privilege to Eva ... Often including seven virgins dressed in white and carrying torches are presented before the people in the church to utter oracles. Grip of a kind of enthusiasm in front of the audience made exhibits to bring to tears to be considered as a fruit of penance. These women are bishops, priests and supports them to other grades . You have no account of sex under the pre text that ¬ (Gal 3.28) "in Christ there is neither male nor female" (Panarion XLIX, 2). In the passage in 1 Tim 2.11 to 14 all that is unauthorized feminist bent, also citing Genesis, but look different under another. "This is a repudiation in advance or a subsequent disavowal, in which case this piece belong to the dispute or controversy antimontanista? (Cf. H. Delafosse, Les écrits de S. Paul [Paris 1928] IV. "Les Épîtres pastoral).
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on those red and feminist talk another day. As well as on Prisciliano, who was also a feminist and woman, perhaps his wife, who traveled alone from Bierzo to Egypt and Jerusalem at the time of Hypatia (And if they had known ...? Good story for a script ...)

In any event, won the misogyny, yes, but what was the original message, as primary sources? What did they say those other Gnostic texts? But above all, what was the attitude of Jesus with regard to women, as even the Gospels clearly show that were considered as canonical?
A show and comment on these canonical texts devoted precisely the interesting article in 1971 wrote Leonard Swidler, soon to comment, to which I owe the title of this post: Jesus was a feminist . Continued ...

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AGORAfilia and agoraphobia (9): Hypatia was not a feminist

That Hypatia was a victim, among other things, a male bigotry, as shown in the movie Amenábar does not mean far unless she was a feminist, that is, defending or vindicating the rights of another woman who was not herself. In fact, in his select circle of students is very significant that not a single female figure. And it is not so unusual was the presence of women in philosophical circles. On the contrary: even know the names of most of them, "the era Neoplatonic produces a large number of women devoted to the philosophy" (DZIELSKA 2006:127). Sosipatra, Edesio Asclepigenia and are, along with Hypatia, some of the few names that have survived. The question is why the most renowned philosopher of Alexandria in the late fourth century excluded women their circle.

other hand, we have the shocking episode of menstrual cloth, which appears in the film, and thus relates encyclopedia Suda :

"It was so beautiful and handsome one of those who attended his lectures loved her. As he was unable to control his desire, he showed a sign of their condition. Sources say that Hypatia unreliable attempted cure their illness through music, but the truth is that the music had no effect. [Actually ] she brought some of his cloths women [menstrual] and threw in front of him, showing as a sign of impure origin, and said This is what you love, young, and there is nothing beautiful about it. His soul felt such rejection and shame to an unpleasant surprise in sight, he regained caution. "

If the event has some truth, the truth is that there appears to Hypatia felt very proud of their status woman ... Or at least, seem to share the Platonic aversion and clearly androcentric-for issues relating to generation.

However, the name and the story of Hypatia not fail to raise interest among feminist circles . There are at least two feminist academic publications with his name: one published in Athens since 1984 Hypatia: Feminist Studies , and the other at the University of Indiana since 1986, Hypatia: A Journal of Feminist Philosophy . precisely in this latter journal, published in 1989 Ursula Molinaro his impassioned article "A Christian Martyr in Reverse: Hypatia." I could get my hands on the article, among other things because the web that supposedly offers it on-line does so only for 24 hours and the reasonable price of $ 34 ... (And then call those who share pirated files ... I would call us thieves to steal information or to make money with it). I follow, therefore, good summaries that give us Mary Dzielska (op. cit., pp. 30-31) and Amalia González ( Hypatia, Ediciones del Orto, Madrid 2002, pp. 61-62). I will quote verbatim latter being the most concise

"Ursula Molinaro, novels, her figure, recreates a picture of Hypatia as an expert in science and philosophy and erotic issues. For her, the murder of Hypatia represents not only the end of rationality, but to the freedom of women. Hypatia, in this sketch, was married to the philosopher Isidore, which is not prevented had other romantic relationships known and agreed to by her husband. With Hypatia, to say Molinaro, die freedom of women, both in the field of thought as in sexual. Hypatia was intellectually superior to both her father and her husband. On the other hand, the relationship with Orestes was an affair. So the patriarch Cyril, translated by Molinaro, not only envious of the influence exercised in Alexandria Hypatia, by fans who could be subtracted, but was outraged by his adulterous behavior. Hypatia represent in this case not only the death of Greek culture, but free thought for women and initiation into the Christian way of submission. "

At a stroke we have moved from a virgin who rejects her lovers in the most drastic a woman with "lots of loving friendships," which scandalized Cyril, not for its wisdom or political influence, for his "adulterous conduct." Faced with such a waste of imagination, no wonder the trial which Dzielska:

"Thanks to its arbitrariness, inventions and changes, the text comes Molinaro considerably further than any previous myth-making have been proposed to justify, using Hypatia, different perspectives on history, religion and ancient Greek. "

But the thing is not here, because in 1993 published Beretta Gemma Ipazia d'Alessandria (Editori Riuniti, Rome) where are some findings as disproportionate how are you:

"Hypatia, the virgin just returning to the world, is the death of patriarchy."
"Your word and your body are the living, incarnate denial of the entire ideological framework that the Fathers of the Church have been built to give legitimacy to their power."
"With Hypatia Hypatia and the female principle in the world, the Great Goddess, who is sacrificed"

the collected quotations Carlos García Gual, Article "The murder of Hypatia. A feminist interpretation and a romantic fiction ".

The upshot of all this is that it will be essential to have an affordable edition of the primary documentary sources on Hypatia, to know exactly what they said it's just that the mind of antiquity, and so far as it goes to judge the legend. Soon it will be about the editing and translation of these sources I am preparing to be available in this blog.

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AGORAfilia and agoraphobia (7a): Why did not want to be a bishop Sinesio

In response to a comment that did not understand the reasons for Sinesio to reject, in principle, because then accepted the post of bishop, as he was a Christian and having been married for the ritual Christian I would add some much clearer. First, and before all speculation, you have to listen what he says in his letter 105 which, at the time, wrote aware that, although addressed to his brother, "no doubt many will read the charter. " Indeed, centuries later we are here reading this curious epistle which begins as follows:

"A fool would I be if I was very grateful to the citizens of Ptolemais because I consider worthy of what even I myself I think. "

first thing that worries Sinesio is not living up to the job.

"I always cast my time between these two things, fun and study, study, more than anything divine matters, I isolate myself, while having fun, I'm more accessible. "

however, have to be very different, according Sinesio The habits of a priest

"To fulfill its commitment as thousands of eyes watching, which has no or little value unless someone is already predisposed, sensible and not surrender to any kind of delight. Furthermore, in everything concerning God could not be isolated but should be accessible to all, a doctor of law that proclaims legislated.

Second, as we have seen, does not renounce either his wife or his Platonic philosophical ideas.

Finally, in relation not only to his ideas and philosophy, but his idea of \u200b\u200bwhat is the same philosophical work, we exposed his aristocratic and very Platonic conception of knowledge, undoubtedly shared by the circle of Hypatia. It is the conflict, common in the era, esoteric teachings internal and to a few experts, and exoteric public and for the masses. The following passage is quite explicit:

"Just as darkness is beneficial to those who have bad eyes, so I agree that the vulgar lie constitutes a benefit and detriment of truth for those who are not able to gaze at the radiant glow of the essence. "

What can you do with these convictions, a priest, a bishop ? Here's the curious response Sinesio:

"If this I agree the laws of the sacred ministry that I will play, to be exercised as follows: private devote myself to philosophy, but in public I tell fables teachings ".

now says" fables ", but before literally said" lies "as beneficial to the masses." White lies if there is one Sinesio firm conviction is:

"The truth of the divine must be something ineffable, the mass need for a separate procedure."

To each according to his abilities. Only the most skilled dare "to gaze at the radiant glow of the essence."

This view is shared by Platonic, Gnostic, enlightened, spiritual, Cathars and, in general, sages and shamans of all times and places, they know that pigs neglected pearls, and the road that leads to knowledge is narrow and steep, very unfit for cattle.

In my opinion, the main problem Sinesio with the position offered is that, first, it feels more a philosophical than a religious Steppenwolf pastor of lamb, and, secondly, they call more worldly enjoyments monastic rigors. Nevertheless, he held the episcopal see. In bad times they ran for heterodoxy, was careful to die before witnessing the horrific murder of his teacher Hypatia ... and before arousing the suspicions between fanatics of orthodoxy, as our friend Cyril of Alexandria.

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LA BRONCA, PARIENTA DE LA LIBERTAD
Escribe Walter Ernesto Celina
waltercelina1@hotmail.com – 22.12.2009

Bronca , letra de Mario Batistella, data de 1962 y lleva música del cantante Edmundo L. Rivero, voz sobria y varonil del tango.
Precisa el investigador José Gobello que Rivero la interpretó en diversos lugares balnearios durante el verano de 1962-63 , con la particularidad que al retornar a su labor en la Radio El Mundo, en marzo de 1963, se le informó que la irradiación de esa página había sido prohibida. He was president of the nation, Dr. José María Guido. "

In a precise notation - Todo Tango (pages 65 to 67) - Gobello provides the framework that gives the ban. Buenos Aires
September 1962 lived in a climate of war authentic, with the red and blue military who disputed the salvation of the country ...
Onganía The general rise occurred in the midst of fighting in Constitution Square, Parque Chacabuco and Parque Avellaneda. The blue supported him: the red were defeated. Guido ranged from one another. He jumped from his chair.
In the middle radial psychological action was implemented by the sociologist Joseph E. Miguens and journalist Mario Grondona.
brutality became law. Boca Juniors supporters shouted in the court: melons, watermelons / a Boca not stop or Onganía tanks. Resume

Gobello: In this mass confusion, as the tango, we got to the hot summer (1962-1963), in the midst of a drought and the rising cost of living, 50% in November and January. Amid rumors, contradictions and ambiguities, were burned and win laurels we knew, how could it be otherwise, the lack of democracy sealed again in song of the people, by prohibiting the dissemination of the tango in March.

few years later, the dictator Onganía bless President Jorge Pacheco Areco, on board a ship, in the great river. As a gift pigeon
Uruguayan receive a sophisticated machine gun.
Tango anticipated to be read to him and his wicked time extension: It's time for assault! expresses a verse.
lot of pain and anger stubborn, still recovered freedoms, raise flags of truth and justice.

BRONCA

1962

For follow my conscience / I'm good in the palm or without a handle in your wallet / and reputed chabón. / This is the modern age / where the offender triumphs / and you want to be decent / time is Columbus. / I politely went out of fashion / no manners with the ladies / and gray are not respected, / neither laws nor the power. / Decency threw her / in the trash in the trash / and the love of culture / group it is all pure bluff.
What happens in this country? / What about my God?, / What I came so low? / What got us into the year top 62!
What? / What sign infernal / drags the pain? / Ya no sibling means / in this great confusion ... / What is missing twine ... / That if there is no loyalty ... / And our conscience, / not worth that anymore?
Geez, what anger me / seeing so much injustice of humanity! Consolidate
who can be / is the last reference / and no one resigned / to stay plated ... / are trafficked drug / housing, smuggling ... / All bark around the world ... / No one wants laburar. / The mules go by car / Satan is on a spree / and behind the fanfare / jump and dance the Harlequin ... / It's time for assault! / Metanla that are baked things / And burn our laurels / the ones we get .-

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DISCEPOLO IN THE PATH OF ALMAFUERTE
Walter Ernesto Celina Write
waltercelina1@hotmail.com - 17.12.2009

school teacher Peter B. Palacios ( Almafuerte ) (1854-1917), brightened by his presence and action not only to his disciples, but the River Plate, who found in him a model educator, thinker and independent citizen.
Asked why he left the city when he was exercising his teaching, he replied: go into the field to sow spellers! Since its inception
ethics poured into his poems love for suffering humanity and question God, just as can a strong believer in the power of any one who can possess a transcendent moral creed. Enrique Santos Discépolo
from an angle less rhetorical, but the filling vigorous and lyrical voice of a man of independent thought, touched by the tears of love and laceration of pain, made his own questions.
The letter will be read in that direction and, accompanied by the music that graces is a beautiful gem.

DESPERATE SONG

1945 Lyrics: Enrique Santos Discépolo - Music: Mariano Mores

a song I'm desperate! / Leaf in the whirlwind crazy! / For your love my faith disoriented / collapsed, crushing my heart. / Within myself I have lost / blind to mourn an illusion . / I am a stubborn question / crying your pain and your betrayal! Why

taught me to love / If no regard is to turn dreams into the sea? / If love is an old foe / punishments you turn and show us mourn ... / I wonder why, / yes, which taught me to love / If the love you killed my love? / Trick atrocious give everything for nothing / and end of a goodbye, wake up crying ...
Where was God when you left? / Where was the sun that did not see you / How a woman can not ever understand / that a man will give all, give your love? / Who makes you think other places? / Who breaks so much excitement? / I'm a song of despair / crying your pain and your betrayal! Remember

Don José Gobello which was written for the singer Hugo del Carril, who recorded it in Mexico in 1946, assisted by the orchestra of Atilio Bruni, after having sung for Aztec film of the same title. Libertad Lamarque
registered it with Alfredo Malerba, before his exile.
Many artists have interpreted it, among them, Roberto Goyeneche. **

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LA CANTINA
Walter Ernesto Celina Write
waltercelina1@hotmail.com - 17.12.2009

The Tango is a compendium of 250 points scored by Maestro José Gobello, a scholar in the field.
The paper presents the issues, as in other similar publications of the essayist and historian, with an indication of the authors of versification and music, indications referring to the time of its dissemination and sociological and historical notes of interest. This formidable selection
, I draw some letters, more or less disclosed, to the reader to examine its conceptual and poetic background, the wisdom of certain turns of phrase, as in the description of time, these aspects , among others, are essential for assessing a social time, cultural, psychological and even political, which comes creation. The contribution of academic
Argentina will adopt, so synthesized, some illustrative elements. I'll
version:

LA CANTINA

Lyric: Catullus Castillo - Music: Aníbal Troilo

Year 1954 has
Creek silver moon / and there is a boat from the sea, / With a sweet piece of heaven, / with an old handful of salt. Swallow
lost in the wind / why remote street walk, / with a glass of alcohol and fear / behind the glass clouded in a bar?
La cantina /
evokes cries if / when he plays piano, piano / accordion
his Italian /
the tavern / that is a bit of life / where you were hidden / behind the hollow of his hand, / for my hand / that calls, silent / butterfly to fly / I left it on the mouth, yes, / I left it on the mouth / the salty taste of the sea.
rigging has been asleep in the moon, / cries a sad tango his verse / and from a little wind and foam / get fatal echo of your voice ... / Tarantella Italian boat ... / The canteen has been happy, / but I feel like crying, far away, / gray suit your memory ...

Gobello Notes: The recorded simultaneously, in 1954, Alberto Marino, with orchestra, Aníbal Troilo, with the voice of Jorge Casal, and Edmundo Rivero with guitars.
Tarantella: Dance Neapolitan, lively movement in the rhythm of 6 x 8.
The neologism "Gobela" derives the capture of information captured in the book in which the researcher takes pride in its deep knowledge.
The notes, in some cases, be tinged with considerations and opinions. **